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What causes these fights in the first place? He ate it for lunch (everyday!) Im severely disabled, so maintaining social links is tougher. I spent 10 years in this same spot eventually he broke up with me because I was not trying hard enough to evolve as a person. Its only been 8 months since that happened, but I havent been this happy in years. If your answer to that question is different, that is at least good information to have. LW, if you want the thoughts of a former terrible girlfriend, mine are: Your boyfriend isnt concerned about you. Hey, when I say, I did X! and you say, Great! Things are a lot better, although sometimes I (or my other partner) have to remind him. Despite that, I managed to meet a kindred spirit. What steps can you take in order for him to feel less obliged and more willing again about making an effort with your relationship? I hate to jump on the You Should Probably Dump This Guy dogpile, but something you wrote in your first paragraph really sticks out to me, LW. I only do that in ways that SHE has approved, and that weve mutually decided would be comfortable and appropriate for me to do. That is exactly the right way to help, I think. If so, should I remind you in the morning? Its still manipulation. But I really think you deserve somebody who loves, respects, and likes you as you are right now. So, his motives dont come *just* from the knowledge that she wants to get better. Luckily, John Howell has already worded it beautifully , http://thoughtcatalog.com/john-w-howell/2013/05/a-narcissists-love-letter/. In my experience, that kind of mindset is tough to crack. Flags everywhere! Make sure your tone of voice and body language are completely neutral, because if they arent, what you say wont come across as simply wanting information but instead will seem like an attack on his character which could lead you nowhere at all. And also we tend to be very keen for love and approval and so when we seem to get it in the form of someone else picking us to be their lover its a really heady thing. What kind of wording do you want me to use? Thank you. And from the sound of you, you are taking care of you LIKE A BOSS. Hes interested in his version of you. I mention all of this because I remember thinking to myself a lot, during that time, Eh, this is fine. Some guys want to be in a serious relationship; others dont. My biggest mistakes have been to really harp on what I think he needs to do get out and be social, mainly, which doesnt help his depression and leads to resentment as well. That there is no end in sight, no real goal. Attend an anger management program with a trained instructor. I dont try to argue other people out of their feelings, because unless I develop telepathy (avert! What happened to the man who always knew what to say and how to make it all better? He picked being my boyfriend and shut the hell up when we were in the gym. Dont communicate with him except through text/email (if you feel it will be less intense than talking on the phone or in person) or calling each other constantly throughout the day when there are only going to be more fights about who called first and why so much time has passed without either of you initiating contact. As I was reading the original letter, I was thinking that the question ought to be how to break up with him. He says, You should exercise. A year ago, that would have maybe resulted in you shuffling your feet and cycling through guilt about how yes, you should probably exercise but you just cant. And he gets a positive comment from me every time I am aware. Hmm, this one is more what others have done for me. depression, chronic pain, fatigue, whatever is hindering you], you just keep going on and work through it. *grinds teeth* Not. So if your partner was discussing ending the relationship because you were depressed and not in therapy/not taking medication/not engaging in self-care, that would be a reasonable reaction. I dont know. Before that I was open to a lot of possible scenarios, but anger is a red flag in this situation. My partner trusted me about what was going on in my own body, even when it was weird and new and disturbing, and he didnt push me. He didnt like it when I asked him to not share diet advice. If he really has your best interests at heart, both of you will benefit; if not, you at least will have the benefit of setting those boundaries. Your boyfriend probably can't see any reason to change his ways: he believes that taking drugs has done him no harm and he enjoys the experience. What happened to the man who always had his arm wrapped around your shoulder and never looked at another girl as long as you were both together? But the way he goes about it is you need to exercise today. That creates tremendous pressure on you and just makes you feel shitty about yourself. Heres my own take-away from my therapist: Your thoughts and your feelings are valid and welcome! Took about two years for me to believe that sentence. I keep telling myself that. Why would they do that to me?. You should always have an independent life that doesnt revolve around anyone else. You will lose your boyfriend if you clutch him too tightly. Focus on your job/school/career/interests/hobbies/family/friends because this will make you a lot more interesting. I am so mad at you for having cancer! See the problem? Do yourself a favor. Taking emotions out of decision making is actually a highly irrational approach. "You need to STOP chasing him immediately. Absolutely. Feeling bad when you are in a stressful situation doesnt make you bad, it makes you normal. Theyre angry with the situation, but love & respect their partner. ), and he usually shuts up when I tell him I dont find his comments helpful if it was all the time, every day, over every basic thing like eating dinner.. that would be more emotionally exhausting than I could deal with, and Id like to think Id be weighing up leaving as an option, although its never easy. Its possible. Your current partner sounds amazing based on that one tiny story you shared. Thats right, mind your own business.* Asking how it affects him could give him an opener for a feelingsdump, and I wouldnt want LW put in the position of feeling like she has to manage his feelings about what she does with her own body. But I really appreciate CAs gentleness to LW about that. Even if he genuinely wants you to be well and capable and happy, instead of just better conformed to the you he wants, hes being hlepy. They feel like Im not happy isnt enough, especially if they suffer from low self esteem. (not so much my mother. Sometimes your SO wants you to help, and has ideas on how you can, but those ideas are often wrong. Nothing is good enough. He wasnt quite as patronizing, but he did have a tendency to give me the same advice over and over. And hey, when you want to use him as a sounding board for something, maybe this reminder will help: Asking advice or needing help with one thing isnt an invitation for advice about everything. LW, whatever you chose to do today is enough. If he only does that with yours, thats not being logical, thats being a dick. but it gets me out of my room and gives me things to look at and think about other than hating myself. The idea of setting up a should about something like food or exercise for her and expecting her to abide by it sounds abhorrent. He explains that his current girlfriend has a dog that she kept after she and her ex broke up. I know I'm not perfect and made mistakes (not cheating or anything like that). And because he had explained all this, if I wasnt working out enough, he didnt feel heard.. The inevitable consequences to him & many people he cared about just outweighed any potential satisfaction far too drastically. It is possible that he can be moved out of the fixer mode, but, if he stays in fixer mode then nothing will ever be enough. Piggybacking on this, just in case LWs partner is well-meaning-but-clumsy-at-expressing-his-desire-to-help and not maliciously-undermining-LW: I wonder if it would be possible, and if he were open to it, to do a few joint sessions with LWs therapist so the therapist can be a neutral party for them to air their viewpoints to and help them strategize better ways of interacting over these issues. . We help each other a ton: I carry the groceries and he holds me and listens when I need it. Encouragement. Thank you for the link. Another sign your boyfriend has stopped making an effort is that you start doubting whether he really loves, cares, and wants to be with you. Without the receptive, captive audience, it isnt nearly as much fun for him. When you were sick, it was probably easy for him to get you to do what he wanted. May I just say that I love the analogy of a starter husband the one that makes you learn what to look out for next time. LW, I think the Captain has a very good point about how you should be proud of the progress youve made the fact that you know that you are a person who can help themself and that you dont need someone else to be your Life Mechanic is a pretty damn good place to be, and some people never make it there. Ashlyn Cook, 25, appeared in Kalgoorlie Magistrates Court on Monday where she . I cannot get out of bed. And thats okay, too. Seconded! I had already tried eight bazillion types of tea. Your b/f much to his dismay, perhaps is not the boss of you. And OMG the stuff about veggies, sure veggies are great but the last thing you need is food policing from your SO, and again, veggies will not cure your depression. Work. That was published just a few weeks after I dumped my ex for basically being both of those LWs SOs. Your Mileage May Vary. Powered by Mai Theme. He both wanted me to look up to him, admire him, and follow his lead, and for me to be a more confident, assertive person who dressed sexier, partied heartier, and loved to dance. Maybe you can get into the routine of attending a kickboxing or yoga class twice a week together. It sounds like your boyfriend has a dysfunctional relationship with your illness. Yeah, he sounds like the things my Jerkbrain says when Ive drank too much and I feel so gross enough that I just want to get everything out of my stomach. (Autocorrect desperately wanted that to read emotionally swankier), And even if they *were* your child it wouldnt be cool to be emotionally spanking them (love that term. What would be his next project if you suddenly started following all his rules precisely? Because Im sure youve got enough I shoulds running through your head without him adding to the list. Well here are some tips what to do when your boyfriends stop texting. These are some of the reasons guys stop putting in an effort. Doesnt mean partners have to stay, or even should stay. Part of why its so difficult to break up with someone without a Huge Serious Reason is that without one, theres no defined point at which you MUST do it. What he isnt doing for you anymore is working to make the relationship work! See if there are ways you can make some of the self-care you want her to do easier. My boyfriend wants to go all the way but I'm scared it will hurt. I saw progress though, and it made it easier to wade though until it was resolved. He took this as a personality defect that he had to badger me into fixing. Nope, cant recall this either. He is a member of your team and not your coach. Husband encourages me to get exercise, by casually asking what Ive been up to and suggesting if the weather is nice and there is nothing to do, I could go for a walk. People who base their identity around fixing you have a major investment in keeping you broken. Stop. Everything I do in therapy has been trying to build confidence, motivation, and self-respect from within and stop relying exclusively on it externally, and then I go home and grapple with someone telling me that I need to do these things to be better. Theres a bigamist in my family tree he walked out on one family, changed his name and got married again. I spent most of my life not being good enough for some reason or another and its a way for some one to exert control by keeping you off balance. This would be crappy behavior from a parent toward a child, even. I hate those inspirational stories. He will always be someone who has a history of serious self harm, who has anxiety and gets very low mood crashes. Surely being comfortable would be one of the definitions of success??? A Kalgoorlie-Boulder woman has been fined for trying to stop police from chasing her boyfriend who had committed an office while out drinking by standing at the entrance of an alleyway he was using to run away. Prioritize on how to deal with your boyfriend and setting boundaries, because I know from experience, it can tear down your progress in a flash. Like, does he have any evidence on which to base this idea that you actually can change people? This a) allows me to see places that I normally wouldnt be able to get to (much of Europe and North America, selected bits of South America, Asia, Australia), b) floods the brain weasels with new impressions without having to get out of the house (and the more impressions I stuff my brain with, the less it falls into the same old ruts), and c) it completely turns the I have to sit on a stationary bike and stare at a wall for twenty minutes around on its head: its now a case of I can explore [cool place] for twenty minutes at my own pace without much effort and Im quite often annoyed when I have to stop. Nevermind the fact that none of my friends were actually offended at all, he just couldnt admit that he had a problem with something I had said. With that said, the author adds the context that the dog was originally her ex-boyfriend's, and he had been trying to get his dog back for a while. i got a screw driver thing and tried to force the switch witih t; I have a hp 2000 notebook pc and the touch pad and cursor aren`t letting me click on things but the cursor does move? (snort) Sounds like Mr/Ms Relationships Take Work! had filtered that phrase through the English-to-Jerklanguage translator and was interpreting it along the lines of Relationships take work, so I can totally expect Commander Banana to work on not minding about the money zie owes me never being paid back, and am hence absolved of having to do any of the work of becoming the sort of person who actually pays loans back., I wrote in to CA a little under a year ago (letter #568) and was floored when I read your letter this morning, because there was a lot of the same The Helper and the One Who Needs Help dynamic in me and my fiancs relationship at the time when it came to dealing with my anxiety and driving-related PTSD (FWIW, things are a LOT better now, although it took a few tough conversations to get him to see how messed up some of the stuff he was doing was.). Im also in a place where I need to learn to feel good about myself and yet am in a home environment where I hear waaaay more criticism, scrutiny, and you should/shouldnts instead of support. This does not sound like how you want to be loved, or being loved for who you are, but who someone thinks you should be. Harville Hendrix has some good insights as to why we pick partners who embody what we needed but didnt get as children from our parents, and how to move toward resolving those issues. I dont know, maybe your boyfriend got out of a bad slump by getting really into exercise and tidying up his home, and hes being obnoxious about it because hes become the Helper. Consider the ways in which your frustration with not receiving enough attention from your partner has made you more critical of . You are doing exactly what you need to do, and do not need to do more because someone else says so. My wife suffers from depression and anxiety which results in her not exercising, not eating right (or sometimes at all), skipping self-care, not getting out, not maintaining friendships, and a few other self-destructive issues. Maybe it is unfair, but my first reaction to the collection of things he wants LW to work on was Boyfriend is trying to sculpt a thinner partner.. It makes me feel like nothing I do will ever be good enough, that he will always focus on what Im not doing instead of what I am trying to do. One of the best dates I ever went on was to a cheap jazz concert in my neighborhood; we danced the night away and ended up as great friends. And theyre not omnipotent (well, actually, maybe they are?! I dont know if I would have reached the threshold for clinical depression since I never did the therapy thing, but my self care was pretty pathetic and I wasnt working or studying enough. Or maybe its because walking isnt competitive in any way? Then all of a sudden he stopped calling and you're not hearing from him at all. Even when I was rebuilding my social life from zero, I was happier and more confident presenting myself as a person than as an untrustworthy and possibly unsightly appendage to another person. They are what they are, and you cant force someone to evolve. Why do I get the feeling sometimes that an LW to Captain Awkward is actually just asking for permission to dump their partner? Wow, boyfriend is definitely being the jerk here. Its a hard thing to let go when youre not sure if your loved one will sink or swim, but you have to let go and let them do for themselves, or you just end up smothering them and the relationship. As usual, the Captain gives excellent, clear scripts. . Is Your Anxiety Sabotaging Your Relationship? Not. Or because he has decided you arent feeling magically better enough yet? Walking or biking dont have those painful associations for me and are thus easier on me mentally. When he veered into bossing me around when we were in the gym at the same time, I told him, You can be my trainer or my boyfriend, not both. Ew, gross. Im so frustrated that youre hurting, and that I cant do more to help your recovery. Reasonable. Right now it feels like youre breaking up because youre not good enough for him, but in a very short while, it will become evident that youre breaking up because hes not good enough for you. When things are at their worst, do you still make each other laugh, do you still turn to each other and see each other as someone with much to offer, do you still treat each other with affection and find pleasure in each others company? And before you know it, you'll find yourself behaving like his loyal and obedient slave instead of an independent and happy girl who's dating a guy. That person is going to be psyched by evidence that you are capable and willing to chart your own course, and think, Hey, my partner must be feeling better, since they have their shit under control. My Boyfriend Passed Away Suddenly, and This Is What Grief Feels Like. Good luck on your journey, LW! This is a good question for a conversation with your boyfriend if indeed thats what has been going on! Cause this happens to me a lot, both with migraines and depression. 2010 The Thought & Expression Company, LLC. he said, thats great! There will be someone else out there who is willing to make an effort for you. When its not great, things like this are no longer handled delicately If hes yelling at you over small things, there is no way his head is still in it. You are not the only one. Personally, I dont like relationships where I am treated like that. TL;DR: I hope you have good progress with your healing, and that either your boyfriend learns to be less of a jerk stat, or that youre in a position to be able to move on/out without him, because you deserve so much more support and respect. He then believes that if you simply were to do the right things then he would get what he wants. But that makes deliberately exercising seem like Im bowing down to that warped idea of my self-worth. My father was an abusive asshole and Mum leaving after 30 years was the best thing she could have done (other than leave earlier). This is all controlling behavior, and maybe turning abusive. 4. Apologise, and never say that to me again. What then should you do when your boyfriend stops making an effort? I hope that both you and the LW are able to get the unconditional love and actually helpful support you deserve, either in your current relationships or elsewhere. It seems like work to go on about our day and converse about minutiae, but well do it because girls like that stuff. YES! This is a guy who shuts down when hes mad. Or something like that, anyway. You are strong and brave to decide that you need to draw boundaries. Value to him also includes your offering of feminine energy and responsiveness, your surrender to connection moment by moment (which helps deepen your connection and renew his deep attachment to you). The important element? this bit has me almost crying. Well, thats it, isnt it? Neither one is going to work. Like, there are healthy relationships where both people agree to certain situations where person A asks to be prompted to do X and person B does so. He is sorry he didnt call, doesnt have time, or that you never see him anymore. When your boyfriend stops expressing his love for you, then it is time you took stock of the situation. Listen respectfully and be open to talking about his feelings. A guy might do it, but he'll typically feel like a loser or weakling for asking for support or even talking about his feelings. This helped my husband and I when I was diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. 10 He Doesn't Ask You Questions. He wants LW to do these things so he doesnt have to deal with depressed LW (he thinks). You can also use the online chat. For instance, it takes me 20 minutes to get out the door in the morning: wake up, shower, comb hair, brush teeth, eat breakfast, out the door. As I recovered from the depression we had a couple of myob talks about lunch time menus, weight and health (soup was a bit of a red herring here). I feel you. You said you would put away the dishes, and you didnt is a specific observation. Does your therapist think that this is normal and helpful behavior? Yeah, he sounds like the things my Jerkbrain says when I am doing a really good job in my life and my asshole brains like YEAH well, itll never be good enough, SO! He also sounds like the physical (/verbal) manifestation of Compulsive Skin Picking which is *literally* a process by which I pick myself apart. So boyfriend needs to read up on stuff about mental health issues PRONTO. This boyfriend does not sound like good news to me. But its still a good idea to evaluate your relationship and whether your Dude is amenable to changing his behaviour when youve expressed a desire for him to Quit Doing That Thing, and what that might mean about how much he respects you. All the love and respect in the world, dear Terrible. I think you are going to be just fine and that you know what is best for you. "And if . They are debate tools. *cough* Nah, it just made me more sneaky and creative, what were they going to do, strip search me? As the Captain has pointed out, the LW is the expert on their own life and relationship, and probably has enough You need to in their life already without getting it here. There are many negative reactions a person can have when interacting with a depressed partner. If he comes back, then great but if not, dont be surprised or disappointed. On the other hand, if your boyfriend puts a lot of stock into what your therapist says, this line might work really well. What were his biggest complaints about you during this time period where he stopped trying so hard anymore? He doesnt seem to be enjoying himself around you anymore now. I have two of those exes and there my collection ends! The hurt and pain are felt by both people involved, but if your ex regrets what happened, they might be looking to get a reaction out of you. Do you still respect each others autonomy and understand that help is there to be offered and accepted but cant be forced? I sometimes wish I could timetravel and tattoo this onto my brothers forehead a few years ago. So I gave him a list of things he can do to help. This boyfriend does not sound like good news to me. And I bet if you looked at that guys life youd find plenty of ways in which he prioritizes his own comfort over a nebulous idea of personal growth, because he sees himself as Just Fine already. And I am proud of him for taking a step toward being healthier. Can you sock some money away for a rainy day? But, don't nag him. He then said that he was only trying to make her into a better person. Do you want to be like my mum, self esteem completely destroyed, fleeing an abusive 30 year relationship from someone who always thought you were not good enough? Even if youre really busy with work, uni, or whatever it is that keeps you tied up all day and night long he used to make sure there was always time for the two of you. Why dont we call it quits, then, and see if somebody else might not make you happier?. Speaking of unconventional food pairings The Peanut-Butter and Bacon sandwich is a surprisingly delicious comfort-food combo (I like to toast the bread and add a dash of worcestershire sauce). Bliss. Despite all this he was in many ways not a bad guy. I dont think it really matters whether LWs boyfriend is doing this to try to make her non-depressed, thin or both; hes behaving in a way thats controlling and unhelpful, whatever his reasons. Dude wants to deliver improved nutrition for the vulnerable? I mean, its not like the fucking JerkBrain wasnt already screaming at me about what a pathetic, useless fuckup I was, so having a physical JerkBrain Enforcement Squad really helped me!!!! 5 Be Friendly Some exes are best handled by treating them in a friendly manner. ME. It took me over 12 years to learn that. Its also almost impossible to judge a situation from one account one letter, in this instance. Gastrointestinal distress. It is about him. But when he starts talking about how hes going to end it they cant help but treat you differently. even when I was underweight for what is healthy for me, every one of those guys has gotten a big ole plate of Nope Surprise. He asked why I was doing that and I said: Im afraid youll feel not depressed and Ill miss it! He startled me by laughing and assured me that when he wasnt feeling depressed that Id know it. Brief excerpts (<250 words) may be shared with attribution & a link to the original post. But in my experience, the kind of mindset that prides itself on being reasonable and feels comfortable saying thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard to ANYTHING their loved one says. I think there are some other strategies you can follow that will improve things for you. I dont know if that makes sense? Its all a blur of low-level bad or just unsatisfying, without anything kicking you in the ass to say GET OUT OF THERE. Some people even go on partial social media detox by simply using them for messaging, on the other hand avoiding watching people's stories. Wanting to stay in your relationship is one thing, needing to stay in a relationship that actively undermines your sense of self because of housing or economics or fear of the unknown is another. Coaches and therapists and teachers also operate with professional distance and ethics that dont mix with romance. My great-grandfather had families in the UK, Germany and Australia, none of whom were aware of each other until Facebook. But this is what worried me most when I read your letter. Do you want me to smack your hand when you reach for the chips? Weve broken up now and I think its safe to say were both much, much happier. If you own the decision yourself, he cant position himself as one of two potential bosses of you (the other being your therapist), because youre making it clear that YOU are the boss of you. 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